David Kepesh
[interview on the Charlie Rose show]
We're not all descended from the Puritans.
Charlie Rose
No?
David Kepesh
There was another colony 30 miles from Plymouth, it's not on the maps today. Marymount it was called.
Charlie Rose
Yeah, alright, you mention in your book...
Charlie Rose
There was booze...
David Kepesh
here was booze. There was fornication. There was music. There was... they even ah, ah, ah, you name it, you name it. They even danced around the maypole once a month, wearing masks, worshiping god knows what, Whites and Indians together, all going for broke...
Charlie Rose
Who was responsible for all of this?
Charlie Rose
Aah, the "Hugh Hefner" of the Puritans.
David Kepesh
You could say that. I'm going to read you a quote of what the Puritans thought of Morton's followers: 'Debauched bacchanalians and atheists, falling into great licentiousness, and leading degenerate lives'. When I heard that, I packed my bags, I left Oxford, and I came straight to America, America the licentious.
Charlie Rose
So what happened to all of those people?
David Kepesh
Well, the Puritans shot them down. They sent in Miles Standish leading the militia. He chopped down the maypole, cut down those colored ribbons, banners, everything; party was over
Charlie Rose
And we became a nation of straight-laced Puritans.
Charlie Rose
Isn't that your point though? The Puritans won, they stamped out all things sexual... how would you say it?
Charlie Rose
Exactly. Until the 1960s.
David Kepesh
Until the 1960s when it all exploded again all over the place.
Charlie Rose
Right, everyone was dancing around the maypole, then, make love not war.
David Kepesh
If you remember, only a decade earlier, if you wanted to have sex, if you wanted to make love in the 1950s, you had to beg for it, you had to cop a feel.
Charlie Rose
Or... get married.
Charlie Rose
Any regrets?
David Kepesh
Plenty. Um, but that's our secret. Don't tell anybody.
[laughter]